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		<title>Spotify from a Community Perspective</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Sep 2010 20:04:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Melle Gloerich</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[If  you love music, there&#8217;s no way around Spotify. But like the 2006 version of Youtube isn&#8217;t comparable with the current Youtube, Spotify won&#8217;t be the same in a year or two. Let me show you how I think Spotify will position itself on the social/music spectrum in the coming months or years. As most [...]]]></description>
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<p>If  you love music, there&#8217;s no way around <a href="www.spotify.com">Spotify</a>. But like the 2006 version of Youtube isn&#8217;t comparable with the current Youtube, Spotify won&#8217;t be the same in a year or two. Let me show you how I think Spotify will position itself on the social/music spectrum in the coming months or years.</p>
<p>As most of the websites and webservices that are created the last few years, Spotify is social site. That just means that it gets better if you have some friends who also use it. But this simply observation is fundamental to improve on Spotify since we have to look at ways to improve on the social aspect of the service, since they got the core functionality (streaming music) alread nailed.</p>
<h3>Social Objects</h3>
<p>Every popular social site has one or more social object. These are objects which are central to the experience of that site and which you can share somehow, often via a URL. On Facebook the social objects are profilepages and fanpages. Youtube uses video&#8217;s and profilepages as social objects. Twitter uses profilepages and tweets. More on Social objects on <a href="http://distributedresearch.net/blog/social-objects">Andy Roberts blog</a>, <a href="http://gapingvoid.com/2007/12/31/social-objects-for-beginners/">Hugh McLeods blog</a>)</p>
<p><strong>What are the social objects of Spotify?</strong> Hint: It&#8217;s not music.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s lists of music (playlists) and people who make, collect and share cool playlists. And boy, is it difficult to act on those objects! It is very hard to find other people on Spotify (other than importing your friends from Facebook) and only via these people can you discover new playlists. You can&#8217;t even search for playlists or users!</p>
<p>At least they made it possible to link to both user and playlist on their website so (<a href="http://www.google.com/#hl=en&amp;expIds=17259,18168,25901,26447,26512&amp;sugexp=ldymls&amp;tok=mqbXp_7DU8UN49vx_HHXMQ&amp;xhr=t&amp;q=spotify+playlists&amp;cp=10&amp;pf=p&amp;sclient=psy&amp;safe=off&amp;aq=f&amp;aqi=g4g-o1&amp;aql=&amp;oq=spotify+pl&amp;gs_rfai=&amp;pbx=1&amp;fp=6052204b889acdd8">lots of!</a>) other people can figure out a way to improve on discovering interesting playlists and people who who make, collect and share these playlists. Sure, Spotify still collects the monthly fee ($5 &#8211; $10) so it seams like it&#8217;s all good but what if a site similar to Spotify comes along? Exporting your playlists <a href="http://www.spotify-forum.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&amp;t=15">isn&#8217;t that hard</a>, so if this site offers something better (all the music Spotify has plus Bob Dylan/Beatles) people are leaving without too much exit costs. Everybody knows that discussions, comments, likes, etc. are a different thing to export.</p>
<h3>Where should Spotify now focus on?</h3>
<p>With <a href="http://www.rdio.com/">competitors starting their engines</a>, the first mover advantage isn&#8217;t really securing Spotify&#8217;s future since people don&#8217;t have much exit costs. There&#8217;s hardly any lock-in. That&#8217;s a good thing for consumers obviously, but making Spotify better and thus harder to leave should still be top-priority and hard to argue against. Because Spotify lacks so much basic ways to act on a social object, they should start there.</p>
<p>What do I mean?</p>
<p>First: Spotify should make searching for playlists and users waaaay easier. Don&#8217;t do anything else before you&#8217;ve fixed that!</p>
<p>Next, think about what users want to do with playlists and other users.</p>
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<li>What about discussing a playlist with other subscribers?</li>
<li>What about voting on songs that should be in or taken out of that playlists?</li>
<li>What about annotating playlists so people can see what you want to share and make notes about what songs are still missing from Spotifys library but should be included?</li>
<li>What about making folders of playlists?</li>
<li>What about chatting with somebody</li>
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<p>That&#8217;s just from the top of my mind, what else should Spotify improve in interacting with playlists and users?<strong>Similar Posts:</strong>
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<li><a href="http://www.gloerich.com/2010/03/09/how-am-i-gonna-own-my-music/" rel="bookmark" title="March 9, 2010">How am I gonna own my music?</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.gloerich.com/2010/11/15/getting-a-now-live-community/" rel="bookmark" title="November 15, 2010">Getting a &#8216;Now Live!&#8217; Community</a></li>
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<li><a href="http://www.gloerich.com/2010/09/20/good-and-bad-points-for-a-community/" rel="bookmark" title="September 20, 2010">Good and Bad Points for a Community</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.gloerich.com/2011/04/20/your-community-is-under-attack/" rel="bookmark" title="April 20, 2011">Your Community is Under Attack</a></li>
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		<title>How am I gonna own my music?</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 21:46:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Melle Gloerich</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I already know how I do now own my music: I own cd&#8217;s. That&#8217;s about it. I have no iTunes songs or mp3&#8242;s from Amazon. Why? Because it doesn&#8217;t feel like I own the music, so that&#8217;s no upgrade from my illegal MP3&#8242;s . And what happens when Apple or Amazon shuts down its store? [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I already know how I do now own my music: I own cd&#8217;s. That&#8217;s about it.</p>
<p>I have no iTunes songs or mp3&#8242;s from Amazon. Why? Because it doesn&#8217;t feel like I own the music, so that&#8217;s no upgrade from my illegal MP3&#8242;s . And what happens when Apple or Amazon shuts down its store? What do I actually own when I download an MP3? According to Amazon, <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?ie=UTF8&amp;nodeId=200154280">they grant me the non-transferable right for personal use</a>. I can&#8217;t sell it, so I don&#8217;t own it. Do they license it? No because if I my hard drive crashes with my freshly downloaded mp3&#8242;s on it, tough luck, I need to buy them again. <a href="http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1469">Same thing for Apple iTunes</a>.</p>
<p>So why the hell would I wanna buy the rights to download a song only once?</p>
<p>Does downloading music legally make me feel better than downloading it illegaly? Ironically, it&#8217;s just the other way around. Some prive bittorrent fora are just really nice to<a href="http://eerstehulpbijplaatopnamen.blogspot.com/2009/01/long-tail-gelul-3.html"> communicate with other fans (Dutch)</a> who share the music they love so they can talk with people who might love that music as well.</p>
<h3>The Big Question</h3>
<p><strong>What kind of rights is music gonna have in the near future</strong>? Is every band gonna release its songs for free and finds a way to make money on hard to copy experiences, like concerts and personalized items? Is every euro (sure doesn&#8217;t sounds as cool as dollar) I spend now, a waste of my money because the music I&#8217;m buying will be free in a few years time? Some of my cd&#8217;s are already skipping parts of the songs.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t want to buy the same CD over and over again. <a href="http://www.bobdylan.com/#/music/blonde-blonde">Bob Dylans Blonde on Blonde</a> is a masterpiece, obviously well worth the €9,99. But don&#8217;t think twice about it, I am not gonna buy that cd over and over again. So were do I turn to when this cd starts to skip tracks? Not to iTunes, not to Amazon, not even to the record shop around the corner. You guessed it right: I fire up my browser and point it to The Pirate Bay or one of the private fora. Which is illegal.</p>
<h3>I don&#8217;t want to be a thief</h3>
<p>But they make it so hard not to be one. I spend a fair amount of money on music and concert tickets and I am still a thief. And you know what, I know I still don&#8217;t know amazing bands touring in my region because record labels fail to inform me about them because they don&#8217;t know what I like.<strong>Similar Posts:</strong>
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